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Gay Marriage: Legalize?

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(Mar 17, 2014, 12:01 AM)Frankedj Wrote: Very smart people founded this country. Our laws are based on history. What people have done to each other for many centuries, what works and what doesn't work. Look at all of the savage countries that do not protect all of their people. They all have laws based on religions.

So if we see what works and what does not work, who is the one to tell me if it works for me I mean something might work for you but not for me. How would we decide what is the best thing to do, that will work?
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(Mar 17, 2014, 01:38 AM)IntaminAndrew Wrote: But exactly WHO made those morals?

Man created God in his image. All antique religious books were written by man.

(Mar 17, 2014, 05:30 PM)sixflagsgr8 Wrote: So if we see what works and what does not work, who is the one to tell me if it works for me I mean something might work for you but not for me. How would we decide what is the best thing to do, that will work?

It's already been done. It doesn't matter if you dislike the US Constitution. If you want to be an American citizen you abide by our Constitution.

Our Constitution protects all Americans and provides us with equal rights even if you don't want certain Americans to have the same rights that you have.
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So how did the founding fathers know what would work for everyone? It's as if they had a standard to base the laws of this country on. Now I ask you could this standard be?
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Ever heard of the Revolutionary War, what it was fought for and who it was against?

This stuff is taught in High School.

When you see a lot of the wrong things being done, you don't repeat the same mistakes.

If you believe that you are smarter than all of the founding fathers were and you can write up a more fair and completely comprehensive US Constitution I would be more than happy to read it.
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To be honest, we are straying away from the Constitution and the Amendments...
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(Mar 18, 2014, 12:38 AM)Frankedj Wrote: When you see a lot of the wrong things being done, you don't repeat the same mistakes.

How did they know it was wrong, surly some people had different thoughts, or was there an absolute truth that they all followed? Can people have different truths? and if there are countless truths is there no absolute truth for anything?
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Many Muslims use their antique religious book to justify murder.

Christians used to do the exact same thing. Those parts are still in the bible about when it is ok to kill you slaves, your wife and your kids. There is even a part about ripping the unborn fetus from the belly of the women of your enemy.

People have instincts. No one needed to teach you how to swallow. You just automatically knew. No one has to teach you not to harm another person. Where it goes wrong is if you were damaged or had been taught that harming others is ok. For the latter you can blame whoever taught you that wrong is right.

There has never been an absolute truth that all have followed. That is why there have been so many different gods and countless religions on this planet throughout the ages. They all say the others are wrong because the book they wrote and follow to suit their agenda to control people is the right one. Who is to say which one is the right one?
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fyi the usa is founded on the principal that all men are stupid and we need to be protected from ourselves
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(Mar 19, 2014, 11:21 AM)Frankedj Wrote: People have instincts. No one needed to teach you how to swallow. You just automatically knew. No one has to teach you not to harm another person. Where it goes wrong is if you were damaged or had been taught that harming others is ok. For the latter you can blame whoever taught you that wrong is right.

There has never been an absolute truth that all have followed. That is why there have been so many different gods and countless religions on this planet throughout the ages. They all say the others are wrong because the book they wrote and follow to suit their agenda to control people is the right one. Who is to say which one is the right one?

So if you just automatically knew that harming people is bad then how does your next statement of, "There has never been an absolute truth that all have followed" work? Because if you automatically know that hurting people is bad, that then is an absolute truth.
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like I said on the first page - i think it should be pro-choice
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