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Gay Marriage: Legalize?

#31
(Mar 16, 2014, 12:15 PM)sixflagsgr8 Wrote: Why can people do what ever they want as long as they are not harming someone?

It is called living your own life in America with the rights and freedoms that our US Constitution guarantees to all Americans. Those rights are not just for those Americans that you think should have them while denying them to other productive tax paying Americans.

People are not allowed to pick and choose which parts they can live by while ignoring the rest of the document like is done with a bible.

With the US Constitution it is all or nothing. The Constitution was written to protect the rights of the minority from mob rule. That is why the US Constitution trumps State Constitutions.

The 14th Amendment of the US Constitution

Section 1

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States, nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

That section right there is why every anti-gay law and State Constitutional Amendment in this country is being overturned by the courts.
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#32
(Mar 16, 2014, 12:15 PM)sixflagsgr8 Wrote: Why can people do what ever they want as long as they are not harming someone?

Because what difference does it make to anyone else?
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(Mar 16, 2014, 03:19 PM)Frankedj Wrote:
(Mar 16, 2014, 12:15 PM)sixflagsgr8 Wrote: Why can people do what ever they want as long as they are not harming someone?

It is called living your own life in America with the rights and freedoms that our US Constitution guarantees to all Americans. Those rights are not just for those Americans that you think should have them while denying them to other productive tax paying Americans.

People are not allowed to pick and choose which parts they can live by while ignoring the rest of the document like is done with a bible.

With the US Constitution it is all or nothing. The Constitution was written to protect the rights of the minority from mob rule. That is why the US Constitution trumps State Constitutions.

The 14th Amendment of the US Constitution

Section 1

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States, nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

That section right there is why every anti-gay law and State Constitutional Amendment in this country is being overturned by the courts.

So it is only wrong because there is a law against it. What if you were on the moon where there are no laws, is it right to harm someone there?
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#34
Quick question. Who defines morals? Who decides what is good or bad, like how you all think gay marriage is a good thing? Who said "Murdering is bad and having fun is good"?
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(Mar 16, 2014, 05:10 PM)sixflagsgr8 Wrote: So it is only wrong because there is a law against it. What if you were on the moon where there are no laws, is it right to harm someone there?

Try to keep the discussion based in reality.
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Still, if there was a place with no law, is it right to kill or harm someone?
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#37
You are still trying to make a conversation about fantasy.

What exactly does that have to do with same sex marriage?

What's next? Narnia?
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#38
Well this has to do with sex marriage because a little while back Blu stated that as long as what someone is doing (being gay) is not harming anyone it is okay. So why is it bad if we harm some one? was my question. Now all that I am asking where do you get that from. If there was no law how do you know that it is morally wrong to harm some one? Or is harming someone something that is always wrong, therefore being an absolute truth? And if it a absolute truth were do you get that standard?
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Very smart people founded this country. Our laws are based on history. What people have done to each other for many centuries, what works and what doesn't work. Look at all of the savage countries that do not protect all of their people. They all have laws based on religions.

America isn't very old compared to the rest of the world yet we are more advanced in so many ways including human rights. Countries that do not have human rights use religion to control people. Not in America. It isn't allowed in our country because of the damage it does.

Do you actually think that two guys down the block getting married is going to damage your parents marriage? That their being happy and receiving the same protections under the law that straight couples have is going to be the end of the world?

If you have a problem with two men being married then it is exactly that. Your problem. The majority of Americans are beyond that just like they moved beyond that with slavery, women's rights and civil rights. We are a progressive nation, not a regressive nation.

Who's morals are you trying to justify? Christians? Catholics? Muslims? Judaism? Hinduism? Each one of the religions claim that all the others are wrong. Who are you to say which one is right and which are wrong?
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But exactly WHO made those morals?
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